Why Ecclesia Dei Appt is Important by MSW. MGB: Frankly, with the new translations of the Mass, the Trads have won, at least for now. Of course, the "spirit of Vatican II" is still very much alive among many Catholics - some of whom are getting to the age of being consecrated as bishops. The purge of liberals is not as complete as many like to think - some are likely hiding in plain sight and we will change the Church in very short order, possibly even with the cooperation of the Pope.
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